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    I found this an amazingly useful guide and disagree with the comennt that TT and EIs should be excluded. If nothing else its worth including them to make the point why TTs in a hammer are rare - some people like to see the figures for themselves rather than just be told!

    The key is to allow players to work out what is the best hammer they can develop given their own account's limit in time, and/or resources.

    I have usefully sent a swords TT hammer once from a small acount where resources were short so TTs was the best option not least as TTs began coming off the hammer village three weeks earlier than haeds and that skewed the numbers in favour of TTs as my hammer was also the first to go in on the enemy WW. Yes I usually go for swords and haeds but this was one occasion when the build time worked in favour of TTs. EIs are still not as good an option as ECs despite the HCD but, again, EIs can start to come off the conveyor belt much earlier with the HCD benefit earlier as well and that can skew the analysis in favour of EIs depending on the account and when the WWK needs to be ready

    My comments would be it may need to be rerun for HCDs perhaps? and also perhaps to take account of quicker development of TTs and EIs as the extra weeks of build (plus resources you save from the extra academy and HCD levels not being needed if you go for a TT or EI hammer) partly compensates for the loss of firepower. I also think that analysis on the right mix of rams and catas would be helpful together with what a 100% rammer or 100% hammer should look like in the same 8 month timeframe

    I dont feel so bad about my 100k sword 12k cata hammer now which took 7 months

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    Thanks for comment Sleeping Dragon

    If you know when should train TTs or EIs, they can be very useful. For example: For the artifacts you will loose many troops. What do you want loose EIs or ECs ?
    Also I know many people who prefers TTs to raid better to feed their hammers. Reason may be different to train TTs or EIs.

    Cata and rams.. I couldn't add them in my calculations. But for your 12k cata hammer, you are right not to feel bad

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    When I was Gaul my hammer was mostly TT's and Swords. This was for the following reasons;

    1. Cost, I did not have the resources to biuld Haed 24/7, and once you are short on res TT's give the most power
    2. I am a big raider, raiding wheat to feed the hammer, plus I had a small speed arty (which doubles my raids), TT's bring in far more raid income.

    Tried to attach a troop comparison spreadsheet I created 18 months back, but it seems to not like excel, sorry

    http://travian-reports.net/uk/raport.php?id=45214a02c1f

    An additional thought, when tuets are in a good alliance, if theirs is not the 1st hammer to hit, their alliance friends end up overloaded with wheat from used hammers, so they can switch to mace for a fast power boost and store in used hammer accounts.
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    I've never been a fan of the 'X troop raids better than Y troop' comment. Sure, comparing certain units right down to the grain and when you only have a few (early game perhaps), then there are clearly better raiding units than others. But if you have 40-50k haeds (or even 20-30k!), you're not going to raid badly just because you didn't build TT's? As a teut I raided with the majority of my TK and 90k of my axe...I didn't raid badly just because I chose axe over mace. They all go out, they all pick up resources, and they all bring them back to my warehouse.

    I would never build TT's because 'it will feed my army better'. Haeds are still 'better' (QUICKER!!) than any other tribes cavalry lol.

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    maybe its a no gold thing, from memory was running neg 14K with no ability to NPC and raiding 'gone away capital croppers' with the double speed TT's is what stopped me hitting starvation. The plan was to have enough TT's to max the raiding, then switch to Haed but the Haed died defending a confed.

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    Well I can imagine its a ball ache with no gold. NPC is excellent for lazy people like me.

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    I dont see spears mentioned anywhere

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    Or phalanx, or praetorians.

    Hey, wait a minute, there are hardly any troop types included here!
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    poor guide imo

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    Will you make a def hammer ?

    Kindly,you should read the post and see the tables and then you will see why spears arent there, neither phalanxes nor preats.
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    Anybody can attack with offence troops, it takes a true pro to use spears
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    Brilliant write up - very helpful!

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